Splitting the difference to get 5f puts us at 3.81 pounds. Perhaps the oldest and silliest horse racing rule of thumb in the history of old and silly horse racing rules of thumb is the notion that a length equals a fifth of a second. 14f: 1.25lbs per length. In racing vernacular, a "length" is exactly that - the length of a racehorse in stride. It depends on how many lengths per second you use. The length of a horse "Length: The measurement corresponding to the average length of a horse and used to describe winning, or losing, distances. Always use the correct lengths per second for the race run. But don't they measure length's beaten from a camera still, from the winner ? it is a measure of speed . A master horse racing tool to align horses to their relative positions even if if they didn't run together: The Formgrids Length Behind Tool. In the results or form of a horse, it will show a margin in lengths. . Virtually from the first race ever run - whenever that was - weight would have played a key role. . Or roughly 12 seconds per furlong. For example, in a flat turf race run on good going, a value of six lengths-per-second is used; in a national hunt race on heavy going, where horses are assumed to be moving more slowly, the value is four lengths-per-second. Of course it relates to how fast they're travelling. 8/48 =.1666666⦠seconds per horse length 1 mile is 5280 ft, length of horse is 8 ft, so 5280 / 8 = 660 horse lengths around the track. It used to be that 1 second always covered 5 lengths but since June 15th 2008 the British Horseracing Authority has set the following distances as equating to one second of time for all UK horse races. It can help horses win by its very absence and stop them winning because it is there. This works out to an average furlong time of around 11.6 seconds. I've allways worked on 6 lengths to the sec. These terms are more descriptive than scientific." To me, a benchmark for routers is somewhere between 11-13 seconds depending on the early pace. Thanks, Of course you know that Carey. Learn the terms and techniques to place your first bet. length of a horse from nose to tail, approximately 8 feet, Quote from: Steve M on 2011-Jul-31, 08:10 PM, Quote from: ratsack on 2011-Jul-31, 09:24 PM, http://www.mitavite.com.au/mitavite06/Calculator/, Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Jul-31, 10:13 PM, Quote from: Wenona on 2011-Jul-31, 11:15 PM, Quote from: Wenona on 2011-Jul-31, 11:20 PM, Quote from: arthur on 2011-Aug-01, 08:42 AM, Quote from: JWesleyHarding on 2011-Jul-31, 07:00 PM. i have not read all before.My understanding,was or is even time 12 seconds etc my thoughts 6 lengths to the sec. You could get a horse winning by 10 lengths but the horse it was 10 lengths clear of may have weakened and missed a place. So in theory, if horse A beats horse B by 2 lengths in a 5 furlong race, he is considered to be 6 pounds better on the day. depends on how quickly they are running their last 600. By running it in 10 seconds, he shows he is a good athlete. horse speed. Five seconds on the track equates to how many horse lengths? In Scientific Racegoing they equate the speed of a horse at the end of a race as 5 lengths per second, and this is then used in calculating a Speed Rating of race and then for each horse in that race. . 12 seconds to the furlong a working gallop?????? Quarter horses racing 440-yard have been timed running 55 mph, the fastest recorded speed of any horse. Other measures yep and 6 lengths per sec. Using 1.5kg to a length we would say that he was beaten 6kg. The weight carried by a horse in any particular race will normally be displayed in a stone and pounds format, this is shortened to an easily readable display such as 11-12 (11 stone 12 pounds). Steeplechases over four miles or further can take up to ten minutes. Guinness World Record recognizes Winning Brew, a Thoroughbred, as the fastest horse in the world at 43.97 mph. Sorry to be a nark, but I can't see what the big issue is. If we are looking at, say, a 2400m race and the horse is beaten 4 lengths, the Wilson formula would say the horse was beaten 4kg (1kg equalling a length). A five-furlong race is often over within one minute and decent sprinters will generally run a furlong in under 12 seconds once they are up to speed. It is still âtime,â so convert to speed by dividing it by the lengths of the race (84.05 divide 577.5) and this horseâs speed was approximately 0.1455 (seconds per length). And this is a pretty good start for an average. Historically, the margins in lengths were calculated from still photographs as each runner crossed the line. One length in thoroughbred racing is roughly equal to 17 one-hundredths of a second, so rounding to fifths can obscure differences of slightly more than a length - ⦠A length is the distance of a horse from nose to tail and is shown in a form guide as 'len' E.G. I tend to allow about a half second or so for wet tracks, or quicker on firm turf racing. I'll muck around with it.. just trying something at the moment. This script returns conversions for generally used horse race track distances. Done this from memory but will check computer code when I get back. Most of the gallop was run at even time, with a 400m sprint in 26 seconds in the home straight. Horse racing weight conversion table. To say "Horse A is 10 lengths ahead of Horse B" is to say that Horse A is ahead of Horse B by the approximate equivalent distance of that horses body length in stride times ten. 9-10f: 1.75lbs per length. 11â13 Furlongs: 1.5 pounds per length. Distances are calculated on the elapsed time between each horse and then a scale known as the Lengths per Second Scale (Lps) is used dependent upon whether it is Flat or Jumps racing, the type of surface in use at the all-weather fixtures and the official going description issued on the day. Race margins: 2 len * 4 len or decimally "2L * 4L". Only good horses can run good times, but both good and bad horses can run bad times. A 5f race run in 65 seconds at a stiff track like Pontefract on soft going would be more like to 3lbs per length. Our results show that at 57 seconds that 3.88 pounds is required for each horse length. One second is equal to five horse lengths, so 5 seconds would be equal to 25 horse lengths. Definition of horse speed unit: â 1½ miles in 2' 22.8". For the base of horse speed, I used the record for 1½ miles (2,414 m) which is 60.86 km/h (37.82 mph) by 3-year-old Hawkster at Santa Anita Park, Arcadia, California, USA on 14 October 1989 with a time of 2min 22.8sec. I thought it was roughly 0.14 secs per length, about 7 lengths per second. that is about 14 (13.3333) metres per second Which is about 7 lengths per second So a horse working at 'even-time' would be covering about 7 L/sec One second is equal to five horse lengths, so 5 seconds would be equal to 25 horse lengths. I wouldn't want to be backing the horses where 2.4m= 1 length. (i.e. 2640 feet in 45 seconds is 58.67 feet per second, or 6.52 lengths per second for the 9 foot long horse. Horse racing offers a unique, interactive experience like no other sport. Weight is the great equaliser. Thus 1 length would be roughly 2 metres 'Even time' a term not used that often these days was 15 seconds to the furlong . However, at that point, he covered the 2nd 1/4 in 23 seconds, or 57.39 fps, which equates to 6.38 lengths per second for the 9 foot long horse. In Scientific Racegoing they equate the speed of a horse at the end of a race as 5 lengths per second, and this is then used in calculating a Speed Rating of race and then for each horse in that race. Naturally, that depends. The Daily Racing form uses 5. Even time is a racing term that has been around since the day dot and it means 15 seconds per furlong. The traditional standard is 2.4 metres (8 feet), but some people use 2.7 metres (9 feet) while others take an average and use 2.55 metres. What this means, is that, over a 5 furlong race, if a horse was ahead of the established horse by 1 length, then it should have been carrying 3lbs more. 0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic. so (and obiously you may say) the more lengths per second, the faster, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 04:49 PM, Quote from: junior on 2011-Jul-31, 04:52 PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 04:51 PM, Quote from: carey on 2011-Jul-31, 05:01 PM, Quote from: Rodent on 2011-Jul-31, 05:07 PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 05:22 PM, Quote from: carey on 2011-Jul-31, 05:15 PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 05:32 PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 05:39 PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 05:58 PM, Quote from: carey on 2011-Jul-31, 06:05 PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 06:12 PM. therefore it goes on from there? In some books (especially American ones) you might see 5 lengths per second as being the norm. But working to the Wilson formula of 2kg per length, the horse would have been beaten 8kg. The actual number of lengths-per-second varies according to the type of race and the going conditions. Hmmm. Using the measurement of human performance as a template the book attempts to do the same with horses. If the horse won the race, then the margin is the number of lengths it ⦠The home of Horse Racing on BBC Sport online. From information on lengths per second and this book you will be able to create your own speed rating for any horse. Of course this varies by track, surface, and weather conditions but a âgood timeâ for six furlongs is around 1:10 (one minute and 10 seconds). If you fancy showing the same, you can try to do likewise! lengths/ second is not a lineal measure . Table 1 showed that at 4f, 4.58 pounds was required and at 6f, 3.05 pounds. Bioenergetics and Racehorse Ratings is an alternate approach to creating speed ratings. The average length of a horse is around 2.5 metres and a horse that finishes hard-running at 30mph is covering 13.4 metres per second, while one going at 15mph covers 6.7 metres in the same time. Without going into the complexities, the scale used for Timeform ratings represents more than 3 lb a length at five furlongs, 2 lb a length at a mile and a quarter and 1 lb a length at two miles. 11-13f: 1.5lbs per length. Be sure to check out our Beginnerâs Guide to horse racing, which explains betting procedure, horse racing results, and horse racing terminology. One Length or more Anything above one length will be shown in a racebook form guide as 1 1/4 len, 3 1/2 len, or 4 3/4 len, whereas the decimal equivalent would be shown as 1.25L, 3.5L and 4.75L. 55 MPH is the top speed of the worldâs fastest horses. Although it has been shown â repeatedly â that this rule is not accurate, many horseplayers still swear by it. Racing is based on weight. Usain Bolt is capable of running sub-10-seconds for 100 metres, but he could, if he wished, jog the distance in 20 seconds. 15+ Furlongs: 1 pound per length. However, if a race was run over 5f in 55 seconds at a sharp track like Epsom on good to firm going, our scale suggests it should be closer to 4lbs per length. It also computes the AVERAGE speed of the race in both miles per hour and kilometers per hour if you correctly enter the length of the race, and if the official time of the race is entered. At 98 seconds we had 2.26 pounds per length and 2.3 pounds for 8f. Includes the latest news stories, results, fixtures, video and audio. 1320 feet in 22 seconds is 60 feet per second, or 6.67 lengths per second for the 9 foot long horse. Lengths Per Second - Racing Talk - Racehorse TALK, This is from Wikipedia, so I know it might not be 100% reliable, but for what it's worth, It's an interesting question - to state the bleeding obvious why are we recording margins in lengths, Greyhounds are always 15L to the second, but that's not really relevant to this is it. 12 to the furlong is better than a working gallop or it is fo slow horses i've had some you could clock with a sun dial. 12 seconds to the furlong is a working gallop, give or take, and 14 - 15 secs to the furlong is 3/4 pace as far as I know. 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. Lengths Per Second - Racing Talk - Racehorse TALK. 14 Furlongs: 1.25 pounds per length. Not disputing you Wenona, just found it confusing Mitavite, one of Australia's biggest feed distributors claiming it to be 12 to the furlong. A horses physical length can't change, no matter how fast they are going. Horse racing lengths to seconds: How long is a horse race in terms of time? 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